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Linux sa dá hacknúť cez WiFi

Značky: linuxové jadrobezpečnosť

DSL.sk, 15.10.2022


V linuxovom jadre bolo tento týždeň zverejnených a opravených viacero bezpečnostných zraniteľností v implementácii WiFi, z ktorých najvážnejšie umožňujú vzdialené spustenie zvoleného kódu.

Podľa zatiaľ stručného popisu je možné zraniteľnosti zneužiť zaslaním WiFi paketov na zariadenie, ktoré vyhľadáva WiFi siete. Zraniteľnosti sa tak zrejme dajú zneužiť iba pri fyzickej blízkosti k zariadeniu, ktoré vyhľadáva WiFi sieť pre pripojenie, bez iných podstatných podmienok.

Tri najvážnejšie zraniteľnosti umožňujúce vzdialené spustenie zvoleného kódu sú v jadre prítomné od verzií 5.1 a 5.2, ktoré boli vydané v máji a júli 2019.

Ďalšie dve zraniteľnosti umožňujú uskutočniť DoS útoky.

Zraniteľnosti boli dnes opravené vo všetkých ešte podporovaných oficiálnych verziách jadra, v ktorých sa nachádzali, vydaním minoritných verzií 6.0.2, 5.19.16, 5.15.74, 5.10.148 a Linux 5.4.218. Viaceré známe linuxové distribúcie aktualizácie opravujúce tieto zraniteľnosti ešte len pripravujú.


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Android je na tom ako ? su v kerneli rovnake zranielnosti ?
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ak zariadenia maju spominane verzie kernelov ktorych sa to tyka, tak podla mna ano. Nie je to nic vynimocne, coho sa to tyka, co by nemalo byt v androide.

Takze treba sa pozriet aky kernel tam je v androidoch v konkretnom zariadeni. Je to narocne...
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V kerneli nie, ale v Kremeli ano :-)
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rano som sa pozeral, nic som nenasiel
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pOZERAL SI ZLE!
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Ak máš Android, ktorý je roky bez aktualizácií, táto chýba sa ťa netýka
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A priekazne sa dá aj wifi hacknúť cez Linux.
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vypni wifi a linux nehaknes
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Preboha! Už len toto nám chýbalo!
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ziadny Linux!
nechce sa mi travit, trapit da x 15 hodin len s pokusmi nainstalovat mys, /kamerku, sluchadla..

linux, - to je tusim ten operacny system, kde este aj instalacia, rozbehanie periferneho hw.trva x dlhyyyyych hodin..
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asi si za poslednych 10 rokov nevidel ziaden linux ... Windows, kde pocas dlhej instalacie a vyklikavania ze suhlasis z monitoringom, po-instalacnom updejte a preistotu este jednom updejte a potom dalsiom updejte a medzitym 3 restarty. A aj to len v pripade ze mas stastie a nemas moc novu dosku kde nefunguje ani driver sietovky. Nie dik, radsej linux, ktory z USB kluca nabootujem, vyskusam ci vsetko ide (a ano, vacsinou vsetko podstatne ide) a ak ano, kliknem install a o 5 minut mam komplet system aj s LibreOffice, Firefoxom, Chrome a inymi somarinami. Na to tvoje pozeranie instagram kur.viciek a zdielaneho netflixu s 3 spolubyvajucimi to stacit bude.
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Asi si nevidel za poslednych 10 rokov ziadny Windows. Windows nainstalujes na PC z poslednych 10 rokov za ~10 minut so vsetkymi restartami, potom sa mozno dalsich 20 minut nastsavuje ucet a updatuje. Zariadenia funguju na jednotku, ak tam nezacnes trepat vselijake drivery z ulozto co som videl niektorych expertov asi s vystudovanym MPS alebo FIIT robit. Linux na tom samozrejme neni ovela horsie, ale zalezi od distribucie. Na desktope/laptope ale nevidim ziadny dovod ho pouzivat, maximalne taky ChromeOS a aj to len vynimocne ak nemam Windows licenciu.
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Ty si aký geroj, keď kompletne aktualizuješ Windows za 20 minút...
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Ty si aký geroj, keď kompletne aktualizuješ Windows za 20 minút...
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v prvom rade musí mať pán dom minimálne 5g pripojenie k internetu, alebo symetrickú optiku 100/100 Gbps. V opačnom prípade musí byť vybavený veľkou dávkou trpezlivosti už len pri pripájaní na update server, nehovoriac o samotnosm čase sťahovania a odosielania "bezpečnostných" dát....
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Ani ked som sedel na priamo s garantovanou gigovou linkou do zahranicia aj sixu (inymi slovami na backbone ISP), mi to pri windows neskratilo vyznamne cas, lebo proste ten crep aj pri rychlom SSD, 8 jadrovom CPU a 8GB ram dokaze sialene srotit a nekonecne dlho mu trva aplikovanie a vyhladavanie aktualizacii, nevraviac o X restartoch, kedy vzdy znovu nachadza novsie aktualizacie...

Ale zato taka windows-98se aj windows-me sa na tom da nahodit skutocne ako blesk rychlo :)
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Tak to je pítschovina jak cyp!
W98 som mal roky, Akonáhle sa vynorili W2000 tak to bolo nebe a dudy...aj WinNT3,5 či 4,0 boli úplný shit voči W2000!
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ktora edicia os je lepsia, w2000, abo win.7 ?
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Win CE.
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Pffff. Chcel by si vystudovat FIIT.
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Linux na tom 'neni ovela horsie'? Minule som robil kamaratovi novy PC, tak som mal moznost porovnat.

Linux som mal za par minut, vsetko (vratane proprietarnych ovladacov od grafiky) bezalo, bez nutnosti nieco konfigurovat, niekde sa prihlasovat, alebo nebodaj nevypnutelnych updatov.

Windows som najskor musel odpajat internet a zalozny disk (aby nesaskoval s bootloadermi a kontami), manualne urobit particie (aby nespravil milion vlastnych), a potom sa este 20 minut konfiguroval, restartoval a updatoval. Potom som musel pol hodiny vypinat kdeake sledovacie kraviny, a vypinat 'featury' ktore mozu poskodit data na particii 'lebo windows je inteligentny'. A to vsetko iba do nasledujuceho updatu, v ktorom sa Mrkvo$oft rozhodne tie nastavenia zresetovat, lebo si sudruhovia myslia ze 'vedia lepsie co zakaznik potrebuje nez on sam'.

Dufam ze si taky bazmek na vlastny PC nikdy davat musiet nebudem. Windows 7 bol posledny normalny OS od Microsoftu, vsetko potom tragedia...
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Samozrejme, že sa dá hacknúť. Vo svojej bezbrehej nepoškvrnenej nevinnosti predsa robí karme také škrty cez rozpočet, že jej musí nechať miesto sa priekazne na niekom vyzúriť.
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Každý tradičný geek je skrytý za hw firewallom a preto je v bezpečí.
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uplny suhlas, absolutny!
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A terazky mi povedzte, Bezny uzivatel, co vy si predstavujete pod takym pojmom HW FIREWALL PRE WIFI KARTU V SCAN REZIME?
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Linux je smejd na beznu pracu... radsej windows, tam sa nemusim aspon zo vsetkym drbat stale dookola.
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Praveze musis
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absolutny, uplny suhlas!
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Zalezi co znamena bezna praca. ;)
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tie počítačové veci, posielanie emailov, vymazávanie emailov, preposielanie emailov. Web, práca s myšou kliky, dvojkliky, monitor tiež a klávesnica a to čo akože stojí vedľa stola.
- Pevný disk?
- Správne !
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zos rylom, z krhlouv, s motykov, som robev!
aj s tackami, metlou, furikem
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..a ziadne uucty, ziadne, no account!
(..proste, nic take, jako sa uz stalo zvykom v novsich OS, kde treba mat x uctov, a sa furt prihlasovat,
a pyyta to x 20 hesiel, prihlasovaciich klucov a mien, a passwordov, k y 15 tim roznyym uuctom, acckountuum, uz clvek ani nevie od ceho-vseho, a, najma, naco?
(pred tyym 2014~15, jak prisli EUropu obsadit tii negri, a arabasi, z celej afriky, a arrabskeho sveta, tak jakziv neboli v Op.Sys. ziadne otravne hesla, kluuce, kontaa, prihlasovania!.. ani nebolo treba! !! )
-==>
takze:

..ak na tom istom mieste
a v tom istom meste
tak len na tej istej posteli

a ak operacny system,
tak len Windows
a ak windows, ~
~ tak len Win.7 Sedmicka!

tam jakziv nebolo, ani neeni treba ziadne hesla, ani konta! (ovsem, ak ich user vyyslovne, vylozene saaam nechce..)
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Vo Windows 10 netreba ziadne hesla ani ucty.
Dokonca ani vo Windows 11, nedavno vyskusane, staci nebyt pripojeny na internet pri instalacii.
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pojdem tento tyzden instalovat win.7 na 1gb ssd, ktory file- format je lepsi, ktory tam uplne na zaciatku pri "inicializaacii disku" zvolit?, GPT, abo ten starsi, MBR ?
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Je to file format?
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NTFS predsa. A GPT je Ti na doma viacmenej nanič a kľudne stačí MBR.
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vD.za odpoved,

hmn.ale vsetci na google internetoch ale strasne chvalia gpt,
jako novsi, modernejsi, lepsi, viic se hodiicii k,pre ssd-cka, atd..
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U nás v Pente máme už len windows 11 a kloudi.
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Manjaro (KDE Plasma) už je zalátané... dostal som sa k PC až včera, tak som apdejtol.

Kernel: x86_64 Linux 5.15.74-3-MANJARO
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Lubuntu 15.10, gtk-2.0. Niet čo látať, lebo priekazne ani nebolo doyebané.
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neviem či chápem správne, ale 15.1 a 15.2 a vyššie sú všetky zraniteľné, takže aj 15.10? potrebuješ update na 5.10.148
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Lubuntu 15.10 fičí na kernely 4.8, ktorý je naviac 32-bit, čo potrebu priekazne potlačuje.
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Ešte že to opravili. Odteraz sa už budú všetky Linuxi vo veľkom kancli cítiť bezpečne. Žiadna tlačiareň ich už nehekne.
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Neurážaj najúbohejšiu a najprenasledovanejšiu zo všetkých komunít. Komunita linuxákov je tak prenasledovaná že sa k nej boja prihlásiť aj tí najotrlejší linuxáci.
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To už dokáže haknut aj Janka Hospodarova cez wifi.
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$ uname -a
Linux fantomas 6.0.2-arch1-1 #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Sat, 15 Oct 2022 14:00:49 +0000 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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